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Photo STK 1 Please contact Stephen Kirkman at :- stephen.kirkman@btinternet.com This portrait shows a young soldier wearing a red British army uniform jacket with Glengarry cap. The uniform design dates from pre 1902, although the photograph may well have been taken several years before or after 1902". The picture is of (PATRICK) WILLIAM HENRY RICHARD KIRKMAN who was born November 1876 in London and died February 1917 also in London. Stephen has no knowledge of any military service for "Patrick" William Henry Richard Kirkman .

Can you assist Stephen with any information about this young Soldier or perhaps about his Regiment please?

Photo STK 2 Please contact Stephen Kirkman at :- stephen.kirkman@btinternet.com This great (probably Victorian) photograph shows WILLIAM FREDERICK MANN (1878-1941) who Stephen believes is the seated to the front and playing the mandolin. His cap shows the name HMS ALBION. The photo was taken in HONG KONG. There is also a family story that he served on one of the ships (maybe Intrepid) which was sent to Zeebrugge 23/4/1918 to be scuttled to blockade the harbour to prevent the German U-boats from leaving.

Can you help Stephen with any information of any kind please?

 

 

 

 

Photo STK 3 Please contact Stephen Kirkman at :-stephen.kirkman@btinternet.com This WW1? portrait again shows (Stephen believes) WILLIAM FREDERICK MANN (1878-1941) this time with a cap showing HMS PEMBROKE. I believe this was a training ship.

On both photos the right sleeve badge shows a six pointed star with what may be a cannon or similar below.

Can you help Stephen with an identification of this Royal Navy Sailor or can you perhaps help with identifying the badge please?

 Update: Ken Wilson-Wheeler, kindly sent the following message,

"Roger, I would not describe myself as an RN expert, but . . .Yes, HMS Intrepid, HMS Iphigenia & HMS Thetis were sunk as blockships at Zeebrugge in a not altogether successful attempt to block the harbour. Also, an obsolete submarine was filled with explosives and expended as a ram vessel against the mole there. HMS Pembroke was a shore base. It was the name for Chatham Depot / Dockyard. Although, as far as I am aware, it was not a designated training establishment as such, some training would undoubtedly have taken place there. The badge you describe (six pointed star above a naval gun) is a "trade" badge: That of a naval gunner."
Thank you Ken

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Update 2: Roger Roberts kindly sent the following information,

"I noticed that the young Seaman was wearing a "hook" on his left sleeve which signifies that he is a leading hand or "killick". I also noticed he has two good conduct stripes under the hook which suggests he has been in the mob
for at least 8 years. I not sure what the single gun barrel was for I think it could have been gun layer. The main badge for gunnery ratings was two gun barrels crossing each other like a X .This was either bare or with one or two stars (one on top and one below)depending on what class you were. Sometimes you had a crown which meant 1st class normally given to petty officers. I served in the RN for 9 years 1965-74 and during my time HMS Pembroke was a shore training establishment for Cooks, chefs, stores and supply ratings, and was right next door to Chatham dockyard. I understand its sadly closed down but I'm led to believe its a museum now.
Hope this helps in some way ,Yours, Roger Roberts, Hatfield, Herts

Thank you Roger !

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